There is a provision for questions before the vote. In my congregation, it was more than clear that sisters should not ask questions-- that was for the elders and ministerial servants. I usually waited to see if a brother would ask first, but if I thought it was important, and no one asked, I raised my hand. You should have seen the disaproving looks! What a farce.
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Resolutions at Kingdom Hall
by sieborg inanyhow i got to thinking today about my days in the borg and the resolutions that would intermittently be made in the announcements for co visit expenses, sending a donation to society www fund etc.
my point is that while i was in (almost thirty two years) i never once saw anyone put up their hand to vote against a resolution that the body of elders proposed.
on a couple of occasions i heard a few hushed murmurs but i never saw one person vote against.
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Reminder about language and content
by Simon inwhile the vast majority of posts that the majority of posters share are perfectly fine (which we appreciate) i've noticed we have a few cases where bad language, crude innuendo and outright misogyny is creeping in.. this is not acceptable.. we're not certainly not prudish and neither are we going to enforce puritanical rules - sometimes a politically incorrect joke is funny as hell and sometimes strong language is justified.
but often times content is completely out of place and cannot be justified.. so, please don't post crude content or use expletives just to be "shocking".
it's childish and immature and won't be tolerated.. thank you to all the people this has nothing at all to do with..
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Simon, thank you sincerely for trying to maintain some semblance of decorum. As a woman with post-traumatic stress disorder, I don't always feel safe posting here. At times it does seem like a misogynistic, old boys' club runs the show.
Diane
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The JW FUNERAL experience
by Terry inmy best buddy is gone.
i attended his funeral this morning.. on thursday evening, i went to the body "viewing" and it was "family only.
" i am part of the family (through marriage) so, i was there.. i was welcomed with joy and enthusiasm like a long lost (prodigal) sheep.
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A Chance To Plant A Seed That We All Have
by dubstepped ini'd like to brainstorm something with the rest of you.
this summer at the regional conventions we all know by now that a talk on shunning is going to be given.
we all know what that talk will likely point to.
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Beautiful post, Clarity!
Love your idea, dubstepped!
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My life
by wasone inin 1968 merle haggard released a country song with the lyrics " and i turned twenty-one in prison doing life without parole.
no one could steer me right but mama tried, mama tried.
" the following year i too turned twenty-one and found myself in prison but not for the reasons haggard sang about.
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Wasone, wow! I think you must know my husband. He was a MS and assigned to the Flatbush congregation while at Bethel. Leaving Bethel before your four-year contract was up was called 'leaving on the Mayflower', hence my husband's username over on Reddit-- Bethel Mayflower. I sent you a private message. -
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My life
by wasone inin 1968 merle haggard released a country song with the lyrics " and i turned twenty-one in prison doing life without parole.
no one could steer me right but mama tried, mama tried.
" the following year i too turned twenty-one and found myself in prison but not for the reasons haggard sang about.
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wasone and Pete Zahut, my husband was at Bethel in 1974/75. He worked in the carpentry shop and was known for distributing health food snacks in little yellow bags for $1. He gave up his little business venture when he had more IOUs than dollar bills in his money box. Sound familiar? 😃 -
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Did You Get Invited to the Memorial?
by Ding ini'm just wondering if jws keep inviting you back or if they've given up on you.. they haven't invited me for years..
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This is my second year with no invite. In July I will be out 5 years after 42 years in. I'm definitely on a Do Not Call list or maybe DA'd/DF'd in absentia?
My son (born in) got an email invitation from a pioneer elder in the local congregation, but he has lived out of state for 7 years, DF'D for 8.
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My life as a fundamentalist
by joey jojo inas a born-in jw, i never considered myself to be a fundamentalist.
i always thought we were enlightened, progressive and not 'stuck in darkness' like all the other religions.. i was totally wrong.. as far as fundamentalists go, jw's are probably right up there amongst the front-runners.
no, they do not stone people to death or go on religion-fuelled violent rampages but that's not what i'm talking about.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s_ss_i_0_12?k=leaving+the+fold&sprefix=leaving+the+
I read the book entitled, Leaving the Fold after I walked away. It opened my eyes. Yes, JWs are absolutely fundamentalists.
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General health after learning TTATT
by Darkknight757 in4 months ago i was conducting the watchtower study along with a long list of responsibilities that come with being an elder in a very goofy congregation.
during this time my health was going down hill.
i've always had a low blood pressure,(102/65 or abouts) but for the past year it had creeped up to 135/90 range.. so 2 months ago after learning ttatt, i'm still considered an elder because the brothers won't let me step down, but i haven't done anything in that time except comment once at a meeting a few weeks ago.
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Decades long severe, recurrent clinical depression, PTSD and panic attacks led to a 6-week intensive out-patient hospitalization during which I was put on a regimen of psych meds that led to an emergency hospitalization for toxicty-- over medicated. My last meeting was three months later. Just walked away.
Now nearly 5 years later, depression gone, panic attacks gone. PTSD will never be fully resolved, but it is well managed now with no medication-- not one pill.
I was just accepted into this mindfulness teacher training program:
http://www.mindfulnesstraininginstitute.com/teacher-training/u-s-training/
Meditation works, as does tai chi and qigong-- moving meditation. Maybe that is why JW.Borg forbids all of that!
Diane
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Our COBE(Coordinator Of Body of Elders) Cried at the Kingdom Hall
by James Jack init was announced recently, that "bro.
z is no long the coordinator(76 years old), bro y(60) is now the new coordinator of the body of elders".. you see, bro.
z has been an elder for 43 years and 35 of them as the cobe/po.
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Sail away your post is so incredibly sad. He believes he has done the good " Christian" thing all his life, it must make you so angry for your poor kids and grandson though - oh how those GB have a WORLD of suffering to answer for.
Thank you for your kind words, Diogenesister. My kids were robbed of the experience of loving grandparents. My son was only five years old when he asked me, "Mama, how come Gramma doesn't like little boys?" It broke my heart. In their teens our children each, on their own, decided to stop visiting their grandparents. We supported their decisions. I was still an active JW at the time, but I honestly think my MIL is the most venomous JW woman I have ever known.
Mostly I have a deep sadness, but sometimes anger does creep in. I feel that they shouldn't have the right to know what is going on in our lives and the lives of our children and grandson. In these moments I remind myself that I choose not to allow anyone's unkind actions define who I am or how I conduct myself. The important thing is we broke the cycle of abuse. We love our children unconditionally, and we adore being grandparents!